22 | Better done than perfect with Jane Portman

Corey prepares to launch his new podcast Everything Is Marketing. Jane talks about the new direction for Userlist in 2021 becoming a full-blown ESP. They also talk about early-stage SaaS growth, starting and growing a podcast, and the new Swipe Files book club.

Chris is still out on paternity leave, so Jane Portman is filling in as a guest host.

Corey prepares to launch his new podcast Everything Is Marketing. Jane talks about the new direction for Userlist in 2021 becoming a full-blown ESP. They also talk about early-stage SaaS growth, starting and growing a podcast, and the new Swipe Files book club.

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